张云雷倒仓时退出德云社,而陶阳和烧饼倒仓时为什么没有退出呢?

2025-02-11 06:42:14
推荐回答(5个)
回答1:

陶阳作为郭德纲的爱徒,当时出现倒仓的情况以后,郭德纲便停止了他的京剧演出,转而继续在相声领域学习深造。

理论角度来说,倒仓是男性京剧演员的变声器,京剧需要从小耳濡目染加强学习,才能在浓郁的艺术氛围中逐渐的提升自己的艺术造诣,因此很多小男孩在经过了数年的学习以后,便会出现倒仓的生理现象,比较明显的特征就是声音变得低沉而浑厚。


当然,相声演员如果出现倒仓的情况,同样会对台上的演出产生不同程度的影响,如今的烧饼和出道之初的声音就截然不同,但相声演员的倒仓只是会改变表演风格。

陶阳如果在倒仓之后依然唱戏,不仅艺术水平会直线下降还会对声带造成不可逆的伤害,这也是两人如今在表演风格上不同于之前的原因所在。


虽然陶阳和烧饼都出现了倒仓的情况,但因为从小就拜师郭德纲学习相声艺术,即便在早期也经历了重重阻力甚至磨难,不过依然凭借坚持不懈的毅力和耐力坚持了下来。

而有过同样经历的张云雷,早期学艺主要以民间小调和曲艺的唱功为主,因此倒仓所产生的影响明显超过烧饼,加之其他因素的影响也就选择了退出。


总而言之,早期的德云社是传统师徒关系的管理模式,制度的缺失和松散的管理,导致不少徒弟的出走和背叛,只不过有些徒弟采取了过激方式退出,而有些徒弟则是默默退出。

张云雷之所以能够重返德云社,就跟默默退出息息相关,所以说完全没有必要纠结于当初谁走谁留这样的常见现象。

回答2:

我觉得要分清楚一件事,退出德云社是指离开德云社这个公司的演出舞台还是指离开郭德纲师门?如果是指离开德云社演出舞台,那张云雷陶阳烧饼都离开过德云社的演出舞台;
张云雷倒仓之前是专攻唱太平歌词等等,嗓子一倒就没法登台了,孩子还小,家大人就带回家去了,后来再回归之后才学的说相声,再登的舞台;
小崽是郭老师带身边的干儿子,倒仓没法唱戏了,其实当时也没法登台表演了,但是小崽一直是跟在郭老师身边,郭老师教他学说相声,后面才慢慢登台表演相声到后面嗓子回来了再开唱的;
烧饼一直是专攻说相声,倒仓嗓子虽然倒了,但不至于不能上台表演,所以一直在德云社的演出舞台出现,但是后期跟着某人出走过,出走那段时间也没有登舞台演出;
如果说的退出德云社是指被师父郭德纲摘字逐出师门,或者自己还了字主动退出师门,那张云雷陶阳烧饼都没有退出过,愣要说有,那就是我饼哥,熊孩子出走后被爸妈吊打领回来了,可能时间太短,还没够功夫给他摘字呢熊孩子自个儿认识到错误回来了

回答3:

第一 张云雷小时候以唱为主,太平歌词,京韵大鼓 小曲小调都唱,遇上倒仓措手不及,心里打击肯定特别大,而且小辫儿心气大,更加接受不了,所以选择了离开。
再说烧饼,一去就是学说相声,并不是以唱为主,因而倒仓对烧饼并没有打击到,他是以说为主
第三 我们再说说陶阳,从小的京剧神童,和小辫儿一样,都是靠嗓子吃饭,但那时郭老师有小辫儿的经历之后,对陶阳提早就打了预防针,做了提前的防范,就是这样,陶阳也经过了好几的的煎熬才慢慢过来的。
所以还请提问者不要再提这些有黑小辫儿倾向的问题了,可怜可怜小辫儿这孩子吧!他以经承受的磨难太多了

回答4:

陶阳和烧饼倒仓时没有退出德云社。那就证明他们对德云社的感情很深。

回答5:

因为张云雷面对的压力更大吧,也没必要纠结

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